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CrappieKeith
11-13-2007, 12:50 PM
Growing up we always used live bait for walleyes.
My Dad would send my brother & I out to pick crawlers or catch frogs.
We had a leech trap and even went to the Ripple River to catch Redhorse chubs.
We seined minnows from our beach as well,so that's all I knew for decades was how to rig live bait.

30 years later I was introduced to plastics.
I'll never forget my 1st Mister Twister spinner with grub in tow experience.
They worked so well for walleyes and pike.
As I continued my quest to become a better fisherman my attitude towards live bait changed.
I found that having a variety of plastics which include shad style swimbaits,grubs,worms and in all different sizes and colors have helped me get more fish more often.

It's funny when I look back to see how many different ways I've caught walleyes for example.
Same fish ,but the baits have varied by a wide degree.

In selecting my bait of choice I'll 1st consider the structure I'll be working,then water temperature.The time of the year and depth of water that will be worked on that day.
Spring,summer,fall& winter will all require different presentations.

Once I've figured out the walleyes pattern for example ,catching them is as easy as pie.
If they are deep,say 15 FOW or deeper I'll be running lindy rigs with crawlers leeches or minnows.Working the gravel ,rocks or mud bottoms.
They are usually there once the weather gets hot which drives them into the deeper cooler water.

Spring time and early summer they are up shallower.
This is when I'm using a 1/4oz. jig with a sassy shad working 6-10 FOW looking for those males after the spawn.
The females are usually in their post spawn dulldrums,but the males are very active up shallow feeding .
Up in the shallows you'll also find weeds which are a problem for lindy rigs as the weights gather weeds and you continually have to reel up to remove them.
Ergo a jig tipped with a minnow or a swim-bait would be the way to go to pick off those tasty walleyes.

Casting & retrieving,verticle jigging or trolling are great ways to work a jig.
A jig works so well ,because it goes to the bottom of the lake which is where the walleyes are.
Making contact with the bottom or staying within 2 feet of the bottom of the lake is the key to boating walleyes.
Pike run up a bit higher and for the most part bass are surface feeders.

Knowing which species you are targeting,figuring out the pattern and making a plan to work any given body of water by studying topo maps
will help your success rate soar.

.I hope you have fun which above all is what we all are out there for.
Bring a kid fishing and make their day.
It'll last a lifetime.
CK

CrappieKeith
11-13-2007, 04:33 PM
Working eyes with plastics works great.Here are some videos of walleyes caught with plastics.
This year I've seen over 1000 eyes caught.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/th_HPIM2573.jpg (http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/?action=view&current=HPIM2573.flv)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/th_HPIM2576.jpg (http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/?action=view&current=HPIM2576.flv)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/th_Picture148.jpg (http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/?action=view&current=Picture148.flv)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/th_Picture133-1.jpg (http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/?action=view&current=Picture133-1.flv)
Then there's some pike and bass that will fall every year to the plastics.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/th_Picture035.jpg (http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/?action=view&current=Picture035.flv)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/th_7b436663.jpg (http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/?action=view&current=7b436663.flv)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/th_4e473e8c.jpg (http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/?action=view&current=4e473e8c.flv)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/th_Picture070.jpg (http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/?action=view&current=Picture070.flv)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/th_Picture050.jpg (http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/?action=view&current=Picture050.flv)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/th_Picture055.jpg (http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/?action=view&current=Picture055.flv)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/th_Picture037-1.jpg (http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/?action=view&current=Picture037-1.flv)

So in the end you can see plastics will catch several fish species.

Timotha7
11-13-2007, 06:53 PM
Eye's are my favorite fish to pursue (along with flathead catfish, an bout anything else that has gills:icon_biggrin:)
These are some great posts and tips

gofish
11-13-2007, 06:58 PM
nice post......ill git ya a pic of some plastics i use tommorrow an see what ya think

CrappieKeith
11-14-2007, 10:18 AM
Here's a few versions of plastics.
The 1st is a sassy shad style and the second is a twister style.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/Walleyes/MallardMarcfishinpics-2.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/palisade1kid/Walleyes/MallardMarcfishinpics.jpg

gofish
11-14-2007, 07:33 PM
what brand of twisters that? looks like the old "ringworm" style only fatter

CrappieKeith
11-14-2007, 09:43 PM
yup,I get them from Hoggie at catch-n.com.
14$ a hundred.....they hold up really good too.

gofish
11-15-2007, 07:53 PM
have ta take a look see.........now ya was talkin bout sassy shads heres a coupl lil ones i throw all winter

Timotha7
11-15-2007, 08:01 PM
Them little bitty things?????

Sheeesh Joe what you gonna catch with them

CrappieKeith
11-15-2007, 10:11 PM
have ta take a look see.........now ya was talkin bout sassy shads heres a coupl lil ones i throw all winter


9incher's....you must be getting some big fish on those.
I'm using 3".

gofish
11-16-2007, 06:48 PM
first one i caught on the storm was 2lbs lol.....dang bait wieghs 5 1/2 oz. lol......use em fer stripers an such lol.....had ta buy new okuma rods ta throw em.most times i only use 6 inchers though, couldnt resist messin with ya....mainly use 4 inch shads but in the fall catch quite a few eyes on 6s at night

Timotha7
11-23-2007, 03:58 PM
Seems to me that at night the bigger baits got a lot more "thump" to them, an the fish
more likely to hit
Imagine the bigger baits or "noisier" ones better in stained water too??

CrappieKeith
11-23-2007, 04:32 PM
It depends on how fast you move the bait too.
I'd imagine the fish like walleyes get more aggresive at nigh ,which is why they'll hit the bigger baits.

Timotha7
11-23-2007, 04:44 PM
They definitely seem more agressive to me, might be cuz they are not "sight" feeding

Also have always felt that nite time was when I caught bigger fish of all species

gofish
11-23-2007, 05:11 PM
bigger gits more strikes most times at night.....vibration,sight,an jus simply the water displacement they make help the fish home in on em.....same thing in muddy water fer the most part........last spring...water temp 52 degrees....big rain,water muddier than all git out 2 inches visibility.......before the rain 2 inch baits were workin......water muddied up, i went to a 4 inch shad on a long crappie rod an worked it down ta 6inches deep.......limited out in 2 hours on CRAPPIE lol