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DaveIN
06-14-2008, 11:07 AM
First. I wish to apologize for the amount of time it has taken me to begin testing of this reel. I have been dealing with the floods in this area of Indiana since last Saturday. Working around the rebuilding of our church, I will be giving this reel a true pounding test in various waters and conditions. During the flood I apparently lost my camera and will replace it this evening. This first post will not contain any pictures to my regret.

First post concerning the Arcadia ES-25 Microlight Spinning Reel. (A-BOS May 19-08)

Lee told me that it is “About the size of your palm - 5.7 ozs - good for 2-4lb test line. Unlike our other ES reels - which are made of aluminum - this one is made of graphite to keep the weight down.” I must agree with this initial assessment. It is a very light, smart looking reel that “Dry Runs” quite smoothly.

I put it on a Shimano Compre Spin CPS50ULB 5'0" Ultra Light Fast 1/32-3/16 rod, one of my favorites for this style of reel.

I spooled Trilene XL XLPS2-15 (1002002) (http://www.berkley-fishing.com/prod.php?k=96704&sk=47014&u=XLPS#XLPS2-15 (1002002)#XLPS2-15 (1002002)) Clear 2 Lb. Test. I am a big Trilene XL & XT fan. When going 2 Lb. Test, I favor XL. When I go 4 or more, depending on water, structure fishing I switch between the 2 line composites. The reel spooled smoothly with no problems noted.

I am a big Red Ear fan and when not available, Bluegill chaser. My Tackle is simple:

Rainbow Plastics A-Just a Bubble Float
Possibly a small weight depending on water condition, etc.
A handmade red ant jig tipped with a bit a red wriggler. I used a Trilene knot on the terminal tackle.

My first outing was this AM. I went to a favorite hole of mine called “Stump Jumper” which is one of six pits resulting from a Chinock Coal mining operation years ago in Stauton, IN. The Indiana DNR took over the pits and has done an amazing job of stocking and maintenance of this wildlife area. I chose this first location because normally I would have to 15 – 18 feet deep to get to the Red Ears. Bringing fighting Ears from this depth on micro-light rigs are fun enough, but with the flood I knew the water would be deeper. As it turns out I was right, about 22-23 feet deep.

I took a small Bass Buster type boat with a Minn-Kota trolling motor.

Perfect fishing morning:
Started 7 am
68 degrees
Sunny
Humidity 90.084 %
Wind 1 mph calm
Water dirty

The first twelve casts resulted in twelve ¾ to 1 ¼ Lb Ears off the bottom. Honey, fire up the frying pan, I am bringing home dinner! The lucky thirteen decided to hang itself around a tree. I broke it off and re rigged. I had drifted a bit during this and decided to try the Gills. I put on a Jig given to me by Mike, Illinoisgiller. I started to knock off the gills though not the size of the Ears and not on every cast, but still fun. I kept some of the smaller to take home to can. After about an hour of this, I went back to the Ear spot and put the Red Ant with red wriggler back on. The bite was there but slower. For this session I repeatedly dipped the reel in the water, drained it, than cast it out. No perception of rough action at all and it appears to drain well also. Had two hang ups during this time but no break offs. Some of the Ears were smaller this go around. Total caught during this 2 hour period was 27 with 11 of the best kept. A mans got to eat after all………LOL

Total time on water was approximately 3 ½ hours.
Total fish brought home: 23 Red Ears 8 Canning Size Gills
Conditions at the end of the session was essentially same with temp rising to 70.

Upon leaving, I meet a fellow just getting ready to put his boat in the water. He asked how I did and I showed him. I then showed him my rig and asked if he had heard of Arcadia. I explained to him about the WIF Forum and Arcadia. He said he would try to look us up. I have decided to make business cards with the WIF and Arcadia info on them so I can pass them out. Anybody else?

Reel appearance: Lee, the ES 25 looks great to me. Light, well constructed, flashy, I see no fault. The graphite body does seem to make a difference in feel, touch, weight. I am not much on cosmetics, just performance. BTW- I agree with your keeping the aluminum spool instead of graphite. This just shows me you are on the ball and not cutting costs. Will the extra spools be aluminum also?

Performance: Very smooth in all aspects. Frankly, I did not notice the “wobble” counterweight problem. It performed at what my “higher” end micro-lights do. Though not known, I have decided Not to crack this puppy open and look at the guts, but, I am guessing 5-7 bearings Lee? The drag was easily set, the spool and bail appears durable and I always expect the line keeper tab on the spool. I dropped the spool six times to see if it would dent, etc. Nope, held up just fine. I even tried to bend the bail out of shape, with no success. This is just a great little light reel!

:evilgrin0039: OK, a con or two, probably because I am just used to certain things:

1) The handle. I like the big wooden handle. What I do not like is that it is “offset” from the middle slightly. I would prefer to see it anchored in the middle of the handle. Just me, I have big thing on touch and feel. Sometimes it just “funny” when I grabbed it. I do not have this problem on the bigger reel/handles, just smaller ones such as this.
2) Lee, just me, I like the concept of the “Quick Fire” bail finger casting operation. I hope you understand the concept I am trying to relay. With the bail closed, back turn the handle and the bail will set itself in a position where you can extend your index finger down, grab the line and a finger tab on the bail which lifts it.

Lee, I think depending on pricing, you have a winner here. Retail will be?
:party0045:

I am going to take this rig and use it in rough, rushing Wabash River water on Tuesday. I will re-spool with 4 Lb Trilene XT. Stay tuned for this next adventure!

Illinoisgiller
06-14-2008, 01:51 PM
Dave, Sounds like you gave that reel a good test. I am sure supprised that it took the repeated duncking without problems.:confused0068:I KNOW
my Shimano Symetres will not take that. I had one loaned to a friend and he got it under water. I didn't know enough to tear it down and now the bearings are rough.
I have an Acadia 50 and am very pleased with it. I would rather have the soft tab handle but can't satisfy all. Mike

troutrageous1
06-14-2008, 01:57 PM
Sounds like a nice reel myself and a lot of my trout angling friends would enjoy a lot when it's finished. Pair up with a 4'6" or 5' UL rod (I'm telling you Lee, consider the Tennessee handle), that would be a trout killer. At least where I live in SE PA, come March around season start, rods and reels similar to that one (I personally use a Pflueger Trion 4520GX (http://www.pfluegerfishing.com/products/products.php?p=13) paired with a BPS 5' Microlite Spinning Rod (http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&partNumber=74068&hvarTarget=search&cmCat=SearchResults), strung with 2-lb Trilene XL) just fly off the local shops' shelves. Dave, would love to hear more about this reel as you break it in more, let me know specifically about the performance of the drag, as that's the one feature of the UL reels I have now that I'd like to see perform a little bit more consistent over time.

Fishaholic
06-14-2008, 04:36 PM
Schoe does have WIF cards availble!!

cattracker16
06-15-2008, 10:59 AM
Great report dave, that little reel sounds like a winner for us ones that don't mind going after some tasty bait fishes. now if we could get arcadia to make a longer rod say like 8 foot and longer in the micro lite action we'd be in business. "hint hint"

gofish
06-15-2008, 01:43 PM
good report...them redear probly gave the drag a lil workout too.......one question though......the WABASH?.....reckon yer tryin ta hurt the poor lil reel some lol....its goin down fast....dropped 11 1/2 inches since midnight here,takes bout 40 to 48 hours on average to git the same flow at terre haute.depends on the ohio level though cause ive seen it drop n only 12 too lol

DaveIN
06-15-2008, 03:09 PM
Illiniosgiller= I was asked by Lee to give it a pounding. Perhaps this was a little more than he expected...........

troutrageous1- The drag was tested fairly well. With the depth of the Ears and the fight they gave, I played with it for fun. The drag was very easy to adjust and sensitive. I think from I chased trout this reel would fit right in.

cattracker16= I agree with the longer rod. That is planned on trip three. Again Lee, Hint, Hint.

gofish= Yep, they sure did and I played with drag just to get the feel. Some drags are sloppy and unpredictable. This one is sweet and easy to gauge. Yup, I plan on getting snagged often and gently pull out to break off. This will test the reels guts after such abuse.

I used to field test for Eagle Claw. I am remembering what specific items they wanted me to test on reels such as this. Frankly folks, this a great little micro spin which is passing the test on the important considerations. This what I can say at this point with only one of many outings to go, and some more diverse water/structure conditions. The test on the Wabash will be a step in the pounding......

DaveIN
06-19-2008, 12:26 PM
Sunny, high seventies, wind 10 mph. Water slightly high, choppy.

What a day of good testing! Caught a nice keeper mess of Gills and Channel Cats.

http://www.whereifish.com/thepond/picture.php?albumid=7&pictureid=31

Broke of five times, two due to snags, three due to bigger fish than line would handle. The only changes from 1st report is that I switched rods to a Shakespere micro-spin 4 and 1/2 foot, and re-spooled with 4 Lb Trilene from 2 Lb.

On one the the break offs, the cat rolled on surface close to boat. It looked about 20 + lbs. I fought it for about 15 minutes adjusting the reel drag with ease. I just got going to fast. The same could be said about the other two.

I went with a friend on his river buster Jon:

http://www.whereifish.com/thepond/picture.php?albumid=7&pictureid=32

The Es 25 Reel handled great and I have no further comments than I related on my first post.

Next will be easy bank fishing at a local park on Saturday......

I believe the ES 25 will be a welcomed addition to the Arcadia line.

acadiasports
06-20-2008, 11:02 AM
Dave-

Great job. Keep it up. Really need to pound at that reel...

Let me address some comments:

1. The offset of the handle. This is an easy change. We did it because it seemed to balance a little better but, we can adjust weight in other ways to have the handle centered.

2. Quick-Fire. Been looking at this for some time. The main problem is that Shimano holds the patent for this and I am a "stickler" about not "cloning" other peoples concepts and ideas. Have asked the factory about looking into a similar way of accomplishing the same thing without infringing on anyone's patent. So far, do not like what I see. For now, the entire ES series will have to do without it. Future???

3. Surprised the "wobble" isn't more noticable. I thought it was pretty bad. In any event, they have already looked into it and fixed it.

4. Spare spool will also be aluminum...

5. Ok guys. I hear you. Long rod. Ultra light. Perhaps Tennesee handle. Will look into it...

Keep up the good work. Lot's of guys depending on your input...

Thanks
Lee

P.S. Minor note - no "R" in Acadia. Common problem...

DaveIN
06-20-2008, 12:09 PM
Thank you Lee!

Next outing will be tomorrow. This reel has held up great!.......

cattracker16
06-20-2008, 09:59 PM
Kinda nice seeing that lee is paying attention to the testers and what everyone else has to say about the results. i'm dropping the r. Thanks lee and and all the testers

DaveIN
06-28-2008, 10:37 AM
Well since I last posted I have pounded this reel for sure!

1st was a city pond about 3 acres. Numerous gills, a small cat 1 1/2 lb cat and a small softshell turtle. Very small transition of the drag which is not nomally found on reels in this price area.

2nd was at a small dam which at one time was a flour mill. Three pansize yellowbellies and some gills. Fought a channel for 10 minutes and lost him.

3rd was a private pond going for bass. 8 caught 1 to 3 pound range and some gills.

Listen guys, I was once for a few years a paid field tester for a major tackle company and I never said what I am about to say:

Lee- when this reel comes out I would be thankful if you would allow me to write a testimony concerning the ES 25 if you would allow me. Just let me know.

Fellas, this reel has remained solid, no screws coming undone, no parts misfunctioning, dunked in water a couple of times without rusting or deminished performance. I even spooled 8 lb test Trilene XT for the bass and it still performed like a much higher priced reel. If you are an extra or micro lite fisherman like I am, you need this reel for your fishing arsenal.

Lee - How many bearings in the ES 25? I plan on two more trips, one tomorrow in a stream and then Tuesday one more time on the Wabash River. You want me to plan on more than that?

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DaveIN
07-01-2008, 08:38 AM
County park,,,,,,,,,,Pulled in 23 gills, mostly bait stealers, and one 2 cat.

Guys I just can not tell you how impressed with this reel I am! I brought two other microlites along for comparison and there is none. It just has just a smooth feel and action that I just can not describe it. Guys I do not mind spending money on good equipment. I fish for large Red Ear and Gills. The two reels I put against the ES 25 was both close to the $80 range and the ES 25 compared with both and in a couple places surpassed them in my opinion.

I use slip bobbers and use two types of bobber stoppers:

http://www.fatboydanfishing.com/picture.php?albumid=45&pictureid=306 http://www.fatboydanfishing.com/picture.php?albumid=45&pictureid=305


As most of you know who use these, espescially the dogbone, sometimes gets snaged in the spool due to poor poor reel take up. I have not found this to be the case with either!

Lee- I will keep testing this reel as long long as you wish me to. In fact, I would look forward to it.

http://www.fatboydanfishing.com/picture.php?albumid=45&pictureid=281

acadiasports
07-03-2008, 04:07 PM
Dave-

Sorry I have not been good about responding. Been a little hectic here.

Looks like the ES-25 passed the test. The factory has already worked out the "wobble" problem and have redone the handle slightly to fix the "offset"...

Some additional information you asked about:

1. Bearings. The reel has 10 bearings (9+1).
2. Price. Right now, it looks like we will be able to price it around $39 to $45. (Guys, don't hold me to this. We still have some factory "issues" to fix with the price.)
3. Timeframe. Looks like we will be able to have it available around the end of September.

For now, just hold onto the reel. If I need it back for any reason, I'll let you know.

Can't thank you enough for your help. Excellent job. All of the guys on the forum should thank you for helping to develop a better reel...

Of course, when we get the final reel, I'll send you a couple for free...

Thanks
Lee

DaveIN
07-03-2008, 09:22 PM
Yep, would sure like to keep for now and keep reporting. Taking it tomorrow for Mill Dam Waters and channels., Should be interesting.

Again thank you for your great company!

troutrageous1
07-03-2008, 11:54 PM
Even at $50, sounds like one heck of a value.

BassinMonkey
07-04-2008, 06:46 PM
Nice fish and glad the reel done a great job. :icon_cool: :icon_biggrin:

DaveIN
07-09-2008, 08:32 AM
We went fishing on the 4th at a small county park that at one time had been a grist mill and has a dam which is a major arm of Otter Creek here in Terre Haute, IN. For those of you who have read some of my earlier posts, this Otter Creek is the waterway which caused all the flooding here. It is about a mile and a half from our house. We decided to go here because the better half and I thought it would would be the least populated. As it turns out we were right. Upon arriving, only two other folks were fishing and we had the pick of many good producing poiints we knew of, including a 10 foot by 20 foot sand bar on the otherside of a rail road trustle over the creek.

Temp 73, sunny then cloudy.

Sorry for the poor pictures, still trying to learn about this new camera: don't click on them. Will not get any bigger.:confused0024:

This is the ES 25 on a shakesphere micro spin rod=
http://www.whereifish.com/thepond/picture.php?pictureid=51&albumid=5&dl=1215280808&thumb=1

The rail road trustle=
http://www.whereifish.com/thepond/picture.php?pictureid=52&albumid=5&dl=1215280808&thumb=1

The first Gill=
http://www.whereifish.com/thepond/picture.php?pictureid=50&albumid=5&dl=1215280808&thumb=1

My better half holding some we were keeping for Sunday Supper=
http://www.whereifish.com/thepond/picture.php?pictureid=53&albumid=5&dl=1215280863&thumb=1

This looking towards the dam and that is a car bridge=
http://www.whereifish.com/thepond/picture.php?pictureid=54&albumid=5&dl=1215280863&thumb=1

Hard to see but the dam=
http://www.whereifish.com/thepond/picture.php?pictureid=55&albumid=5&dl=1215280863&thumb=1

I took two rigs, the ES 25 and a Quatum XL00 S2 combo both with the red ants tipped with red wrigglers, and Rainbow Plastics AdJustABubble float. Never used the Quatum. The Acadia ES-25 worked the whole we were here.

My wife does not use anything else than Zebco 33's, float, sinker, and nite crawlers. knowing our history here I brought five poles ready for her to use with Trilene XT 8lb test. Yoko has been known to get snagged here quite often and break off the line. As it turned out, I was right, she broke off four and brought home one intact..........:confused0068:

We had a very good over 2 two hour session. Yoko most of the time catches a lot more than I do but, today the tables had turned. I normally target the Red Ear but knowing the lack of in this water, I was game for anything that hit. Yoko uses her nite crawlers and is looking for anything that bites, fish, snakes, beavers, sharks, otters, it don't matter. Just so she can say she caught more than I, she is happy. Not today, I out fished about 5 to one! She did catch the biggest though......:confused0018:

Gills were the game of the day and we 11 home. A bunch and smaller ands bait stealers were also caught.

Nothing more I can say about the ES 25 on this trip. It handled extremely well with all the Pros I have already stated.

Thank you Acadia

acadiasports
08-04-2008, 03:22 PM
Here's an update on the ES-25:

First, need to correct a mistake. The ES-25 has 8 bearings (7+1) - not 10. It was my mistake on the previous post. The reel tested by Dave was the same - 8 bearings. Got my wires crossed on some info. Sorry guys.

Secondly, we gave final approval to the factory with the fixes (slight wobble and offset handle).

Final pricing will be $39.95. Worked hard with the factory on pricing.

Looks like reels will be available end of September or early October....

Thanks again for all of the help. Especially Dave!!!!

Lee